This weekend, we are back with our survivors, last seen in a cave crawling with thousands of walkers, trapped by Alpha. Can't wait to see how they'll get out of this one. Scared not everyone will.
Trying really hard to stay away from spoilers. So far I've managed it pretty well. All that was spoilt for me is that there will be some sexual content and I have seen a couple of trailers so I know who will definitely make it out of the cave. But I'll keep it to myself.
10x09 'Squeeze'
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My little claustrophobic heart is bursting after watching this episode. It really was hard for me to watch for that very reason alone. There was so much I loved about this episode. Very credible storytelling.
Here we are with our little group hopping over deep crevices where decomposing droves await with mint-fresh breath their haphazard landings. I barely survived this, feeling at least one person would accidentally swan dive into their groping hands.
Carol. Dammit, Carol - you have now crossed the line and joined the characters who made me urp. I really loved the dialog between Carol and Daryl...well, Daryl's anyway. He understands what she is going through, yet is wise enough to know that moving towards the future and claiming it is the best revenge - not an eye for an eye. Carol cannot let go - and who could, really? The way her son was killed is so unforgivable and Alpha is so evil. The carnal scream that escaped Carol when she saw Alpha told the story, didn't it?
Yet, these thorny vines in which Carol is entangled hurts the others in such a palpable way it cannot stand, and Daryl told her so....to no apparent avail.
I love Daryl's honesty and new approach with his ability to express himself. I credit love, trust, hope, and time. I refuse to believe his new beautiful, caring, fun little love interest in buried forever. I hated Carol's mewling apology. The restraint Daryl showed in this instance was heroic, truly. He loves Carol, but she has been incapable of processing his wise words and has shaken off any attachment with exception of overwhelming sorrow and the need for revenge.
Daryl throwing off rocks, all the while knowing it was an exercise in futility? My poor heart... I thought about you, Dee. Of course, Daryl is smart and immediately sprung to action, having seen that the Whisperers got out before them so there must be another point of entry.
Alpha and Negan. Why am I giggling here? I was surprised Negan initially found himself so vulnerable, believing he was going to be killed. His dimpled question about the Praying Mantis was funny. I suppose the clap will kill him now... (Did I just say that? I meant it.) He has a nice profile.
Okay - over to you kids. I'm exhausted!! This was quite the episode, was it not?
Here we are with our little group hopping over deep crevices where decomposing droves await with mint-fresh breath their haphazard landings. I barely survived this, feeling at least one person would accidentally swan dive into their groping hands.
Carol. Dammit, Carol - you have now crossed the line and joined the characters who made me urp. I really loved the dialog between Carol and Daryl...well, Daryl's anyway. He understands what she is going through, yet is wise enough to know that moving towards the future and claiming it is the best revenge - not an eye for an eye. Carol cannot let go - and who could, really? The way her son was killed is so unforgivable and Alpha is so evil. The carnal scream that escaped Carol when she saw Alpha told the story, didn't it?
Yet, these thorny vines in which Carol is entangled hurts the others in such a palpable way it cannot stand, and Daryl told her so....to no apparent avail.
I love Daryl's honesty and new approach with his ability to express himself. I credit love, trust, hope, and time. I refuse to believe his new beautiful, caring, fun little love interest in buried forever. I hated Carol's mewling apology. The restraint Daryl showed in this instance was heroic, truly. He loves Carol, but she has been incapable of processing his wise words and has shaken off any attachment with exception of overwhelming sorrow and the need for revenge.
Daryl throwing off rocks, all the while knowing it was an exercise in futility? My poor heart... I thought about you, Dee. Of course, Daryl is smart and immediately sprung to action, having seen that the Whisperers got out before them so there must be another point of entry.
Alpha and Negan. Why am I giggling here? I was surprised Negan initially found himself so vulnerable, believing he was going to be killed. His dimpled question about the Praying Mantis was funny. I suppose the clap will kill him now... (Did I just say that? I meant it.) He has a nice profile.
Okay - over to you kids. I'm exhausted!! This was quite the episode, was it not?
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It certainly was. One of the best. I loved every minute of it. I was totally gripped and held my breath all throughout.
I enjoyed reading your reflections immensely, Lori. I love how you love Daryl and can't help noticing Negan's cute dimples. The make out scene between him and Alpha was hilarious. Especially the keeping their socks on part. It was so funny how quickly Negan recovered from his moment of reckoning (thinking his death was imminent) to joking, and going along with the suggested sex as a better alternative to dying (though we could argue, only marginally, and as you've pointed out so eloquently, Lori, this still might kill him )
Daryl tearing at the rocks and crying, oh man. No need to say I was crying with him, is there? But he still has some hope to get Connie out, so like you, I still hope with him. I want him to reunite with Connie more than anything. If that happened now, there's no doubt the two of them would finally embrace this thing between them.
He is just so impressively together, isn't he? And putting him next to Carol, it's even more highlighted, seeing these two people at the opposite peaks of their mental strength and confidence right now.
Daryl is such a calm, quiet, natural leader, focused on getting his people to safety, dealing with everyone's problems along the way the best he could. Constantly doing head counts to make sure they're all still with him. And when disaster strikes, he's still keeping it together. He doesn't lash out. He walks away and drives his focus on what needs to be done next to help the two still stuck in the cave.
It's also interesting to note how his leadership is so different from Rick's. Daryl's leading so quietly. It's the best word I can find. You know what I mean?
And Kelly... how amazingly strong she was as well. Not buckling under her panic, but staying focused on finding a way to help her sister and friend. I love Kelly's character.
Thank goodness, Jerry is safe. He's such a darling. And what a hero he was holding up that frame like his life depended on it, until they all got out. This show is full of inspirational moments, truly.
Yet not shying away from showing the other end of the spectrum either. Carol at her lowest we have ever seen her, clinically depressed, utterly broken, unable to think clearly. I feel so sorry for her. It's like an addiction now, this fixation on revenge, the only thing that eases her grief and frustration. It's so very human, and relatable. She's totally lost the plot now, and I hope this was the crunch point for her, the loudest and final wake up call. I'm sure she will somehow rally now, and find a way to collect and redeem herself with Daryl and the group. I very much doubt both girls will survive the cave collapse, but if at least Connie could make it out alive, that would certainly help fixing things with Daryl. I'm sensing there's something big coming up for Carol, she will do something amazing only she can do. I'm rooting for her. I also fear this Something Big could go either way: it could lead to closure and a fresh start, as well as a heroic death. I'm hoping it's the former.
Can't wait for the next episode!
I enjoyed reading your reflections immensely, Lori. I love how you love Daryl and can't help noticing Negan's cute dimples. The make out scene between him and Alpha was hilarious. Especially the keeping their socks on part. It was so funny how quickly Negan recovered from his moment of reckoning (thinking his death was imminent) to joking, and going along with the suggested sex as a better alternative to dying (though we could argue, only marginally, and as you've pointed out so eloquently, Lori, this still might kill him )
Daryl tearing at the rocks and crying, oh man. No need to say I was crying with him, is there? But he still has some hope to get Connie out, so like you, I still hope with him. I want him to reunite with Connie more than anything. If that happened now, there's no doubt the two of them would finally embrace this thing between them.
He is just so impressively together, isn't he? And putting him next to Carol, it's even more highlighted, seeing these two people at the opposite peaks of their mental strength and confidence right now.
Daryl is such a calm, quiet, natural leader, focused on getting his people to safety, dealing with everyone's problems along the way the best he could. Constantly doing head counts to make sure they're all still with him. And when disaster strikes, he's still keeping it together. He doesn't lash out. He walks away and drives his focus on what needs to be done next to help the two still stuck in the cave.
It's also interesting to note how his leadership is so different from Rick's. Daryl's leading so quietly. It's the best word I can find. You know what I mean?
And Kelly... how amazingly strong she was as well. Not buckling under her panic, but staying focused on finding a way to help her sister and friend. I love Kelly's character.
Thank goodness, Jerry is safe. He's such a darling. And what a hero he was holding up that frame like his life depended on it, until they all got out. This show is full of inspirational moments, truly.
Yet not shying away from showing the other end of the spectrum either. Carol at her lowest we have ever seen her, clinically depressed, utterly broken, unable to think clearly. I feel so sorry for her. It's like an addiction now, this fixation on revenge, the only thing that eases her grief and frustration. It's so very human, and relatable. She's totally lost the plot now, and I hope this was the crunch point for her, the loudest and final wake up call. I'm sure she will somehow rally now, and find a way to collect and redeem herself with Daryl and the group. I very much doubt both girls will survive the cave collapse, but if at least Connie could make it out alive, that would certainly help fixing things with Daryl. I'm sensing there's something big coming up for Carol, she will do something amazing only she can do. I'm rooting for her. I also fear this Something Big could go either way: it could lead to closure and a fresh start, as well as a heroic death. I'm hoping it's the former.
Can't wait for the next episode!
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I agree the characters were spot-on. Kelly being so strong - such a little fighter. I admit that Jerry has been solidly off my radar from day one. I like him...a little shrug generally. This episode, however, perked my ears with his amazing feat in keeping the collapse from happening. A sweet bull of a man. I cared greatly about him when he was stuck.
The group is coming into their own - displaying their strengths and compensating for each other's weaknesses. I hope Carol redeems herself. Again, it's very hard to hold her responsible for her actions, but if you will recall she has mitigated people in the past who put the group in danger - even if they were not in control of their mental facilities. If Carol met herself, would she suggest excommunication or putting her out of her misery as she is so dangerous to herself and others? Truly, she should have been kept safe or behind locked doors until they dealt with Alpha.
I need to gouge my mind's eye out on that sex scene. Again, TWD is masterful in combining the grossly unpalatable with the... yeah, but that was emotionally amazing...or visually-stunning. I think I can carve half of the couple out of my memory.
Regardless, it will be GLORIOUS when Alpha is finally dealt with. Or, will we end up cutting her some slack, much like Negan? I still don't cut him slack. I cut JDM slack because he has played Negan masterfully.
The leadership style of Daryl versus Rick as a comparison is pretty amazing. By not being the overt alpha-male, standing and announcing leadership from a rock or from horseback, I think some of the pointing fingers of the group would have to point back at themselves a little more solidly. In Rick, they had someone to laud and then blame. A figurehead on a pedestal who seemed nearly omnipotent, but then could be brought down unfairly and quickly when all of that heavy responsibility came crashing down. This is always the ending with pedestals, correct? I know it well in my own life - so impersonal. In Daryl, he is more solidly one of THEM, yet they rely on his grounded and quiet leadership. Really fascinating. His life is smoothing out in areas but becoming wrought with a new kind of emotional complication.
Well - on to next week, yes? More heart whiplash?
The group is coming into their own - displaying their strengths and compensating for each other's weaknesses. I hope Carol redeems herself. Again, it's very hard to hold her responsible for her actions, but if you will recall she has mitigated people in the past who put the group in danger - even if they were not in control of their mental facilities. If Carol met herself, would she suggest excommunication or putting her out of her misery as she is so dangerous to herself and others? Truly, she should have been kept safe or behind locked doors until they dealt with Alpha.
I need to gouge my mind's eye out on that sex scene. Again, TWD is masterful in combining the grossly unpalatable with the... yeah, but that was emotionally amazing...or visually-stunning. I think I can carve half of the couple out of my memory.
Regardless, it will be GLORIOUS when Alpha is finally dealt with. Or, will we end up cutting her some slack, much like Negan? I still don't cut him slack. I cut JDM slack because he has played Negan masterfully.
The leadership style of Daryl versus Rick as a comparison is pretty amazing. By not being the overt alpha-male, standing and announcing leadership from a rock or from horseback, I think some of the pointing fingers of the group would have to point back at themselves a little more solidly. In Rick, they had someone to laud and then blame. A figurehead on a pedestal who seemed nearly omnipotent, but then could be brought down unfairly and quickly when all of that heavy responsibility came crashing down. This is always the ending with pedestals, correct? I know it well in my own life - so impersonal. In Daryl, he is more solidly one of THEM, yet they rely on his grounded and quiet leadership. Really fascinating. His life is smoothing out in areas but becoming wrought with a new kind of emotional complication.
Well - on to next week, yes? More heart whiplash?
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You are so right!If Carol met herself, would she suggest excommunication or putting her out of her misery as she is so dangerous to herself and others?
She's such an interesting character. Never been one of my favourites, but I've certainly admired some of her qualities. I've just never really warmed to her. I think somehow there's a lack of warmth and openness in her character.
Don't you think?
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I'm finding this little JDM appreciation-on-the-side very amusing, I must admit.Regardless, it will be GLORIOUS when Alpha is finally dealt with. Or, will we end up cutting her some slack, much like Negan? I still don't cut him slack. I cut JDM slack because he has played Negan masterfully.
Alpha is going to DIE this season. Oh yes. And as far as deaths go, this one will indeed be glorious. Who will get to kill her though? I know who did in the comics, but that's not necessarily how it will play out on the screen. I very much doubt that anyone will cut her any slack.
Negan... is a very complicated character. Much as he was a hideous asshole and has a great list of dreadful acts in his past, recently he has done some good. He saved Judith and Dog in the snow storm, and he saved Lydia from those thugs who were going to beat her to death. These things allow him a tiny, tiny little slack, I think. We are yet to find out what kinda game he is playing with the Whisperers. And he better comes out well from this, because I'm pretty sure it was Daryl who let him go, and I don't want this to backfire on the Alexandrians.
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I like how you've worded this as well. Yes.In Daryl, he is more solidly one of THEM, yet they rely on his grounded and quiet leadership.
He's been just the absolute best in this episode. If I hadn't adored him already, I think I definitely would after this. Now I just have to adore him more, I guess.
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Good thing the heart is expandable. I wouldn't be so sure you could love him more.
I still wonder if we went back to the episode where Negan killed our loved ones, including Glenn, if any redemptive action would be sufficient. I highly doubt it. Criminally insane for sure - that is the slippery slope. Where is the line where one is responsible for their actions even if their head is scrambled and their heart a piece of coal. (Asking for a friend.)
I wonder if Carol will kill Alpha. That seems too predictable, though. Who in our group has the streak of sadistic necessary to give her a death she deserves? Most likely by her own hoard of walkers? Lydia? The other daughter? I don't see our group making her suffer, which is a nice reflection on them. Negan has that ability too.
JDM? Hmm. He seems awfully skinny this season. I hope he is okay. Giggle away, PIC! UPDATE: I just tested myself with a plethora of JDM photos. Nope - he is fine, don't get me wrong. He is a mans-man and I like that a bit with that certain swagger. Not yawning but not fawning.
This is sweet, however.
I still wonder if we went back to the episode where Negan killed our loved ones, including Glenn, if any redemptive action would be sufficient. I highly doubt it. Criminally insane for sure - that is the slippery slope. Where is the line where one is responsible for their actions even if their head is scrambled and their heart a piece of coal. (Asking for a friend.)
I wonder if Carol will kill Alpha. That seems too predictable, though. Who in our group has the streak of sadistic necessary to give her a death she deserves? Most likely by her own hoard of walkers? Lydia? The other daughter? I don't see our group making her suffer, which is a nice reflection on them. Negan has that ability too.
JDM? Hmm. He seems awfully skinny this season. I hope he is okay. Giggle away, PIC! UPDATE: I just tested myself with a plethora of JDM photos. Nope - he is fine, don't get me wrong. He is a mans-man and I like that a bit with that certain swagger. Not yawning but not fawning.
This is sweet, however.
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Hola!
So i totally forgot this was airing until last night by which time i realised i had two new eps to watch.. Yay!
Well, this wasnt a good episode for those who suffer from claustrophobia, anxiety or a fear of sex with socks on!!
I suffer from 2 of the above but i'm not saying which ones
I really felt for Jerry squeezing (is this why the ep was named squeeze?) through those tiny gaps with his massive shoulders, I just kept thinking if it were me it would be my ample butt.
However, he did put those massive shoulders to good use in the end with his heroic human scaffold routine...bravo!
Because he was so heroic i was sure he was going to die this episode but im so glad he didn't.
Carol. Well, rationally i understand why she is acting like this but i still can't help feel annoyance at her wimpering to Daryl. That man has super human levels of patience.
I just sniggered through the entire Negan/Alpha scene because all i could think of was eww for many reasons.
I mean hygiene for starters and didn't Alpha push him into that filthy makeshift latrine earlier that day...yuck.
Negan will probably be the one to kill Alpha I think.
Good episode.
So i totally forgot this was airing until last night by which time i realised i had two new eps to watch.. Yay!
Well, this wasnt a good episode for those who suffer from claustrophobia, anxiety or a fear of sex with socks on!!
I suffer from 2 of the above but i'm not saying which ones
I really felt for Jerry squeezing (is this why the ep was named squeeze?) through those tiny gaps with his massive shoulders, I just kept thinking if it were me it would be my ample butt.
However, he did put those massive shoulders to good use in the end with his heroic human scaffold routine...bravo!
Because he was so heroic i was sure he was going to die this episode but im so glad he didn't.
Carol. Well, rationally i understand why she is acting like this but i still can't help feel annoyance at her wimpering to Daryl. That man has super human levels of patience.
I just sniggered through the entire Negan/Alpha scene because all i could think of was eww for many reasons.
I mean hygiene for starters and didn't Alpha push him into that filthy makeshift latrine earlier that day...yuck.
Negan will probably be the one to kill Alpha I think.
Good episode.
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